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Using The Nose....

Last post 05-23-2010, 3:22 PM by bocards. 48 replies.
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  • Re: Using The Nose....

     03-09-2010, 10:13 AM

    I find it very surprising that no one has suggested to the newbie "nose-exhalers" to try the closed-mouth, breath out tactic WITHOUT smoke in their mouth first yet... It would save them a lot of painful trial and error at the very least.

    I think also that the best way to describe filling your mouth with air is not to fill it with "air," but to fill it with lots of "space".

    Another method I used when first learning the technique, is to first try breathing in and out with your mouth wide open. Without stopping breathing in and out, and right before you exhale, close your lips. You will realize that all the air that was in your mouth will have escaped out through your nose. This method teaches you how to hold the back of your mouth and throat open so that expelling the smoke out of your nose from your mouth is even possible. It seems to me like this may be the problem for the people that have still yet to make it happen.



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  • Re: Using The Nose....

     03-09-2010, 7:06 PM

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    For whatever reason, it simply doesn't work for me. I take a puff, close my mouth, blow out through my nose, and nothing but air goes out. The smoke just remains in my mouth until I blow it out through my mouth.
  • Re: Using The Nose....

     03-10-2010, 9:03 AM

    For me, it's always been about the nose, but I do the"French inhale" method, draw smoke into the mouth, closing the throat in the back by tongue,let it drift/ push it out by closing the mouth and inhale through the nose gently, just enough to fill the nasal cavities without getting it into the lungs. Tried the blowing from mouth out through nose last night with pretty much the same results as Dennis King, lots of burning. Ya'll might try this, it's the only way I pick up the bread, nuts, coffee etc that are touted in the write-ups.
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  • Re: Using The Nose....

     03-10-2010, 5:31 PM

    bacon.jay:
    I find it very surprising that no one has suggested to the newbie "nose-exhalers" to try the closed-mouth, breath out tactic WITHOUT smoke in their mouth first yet... It would save them a lot of painful trial and error at the very least.
    To a large extent you're right, here's the one thing I can think of to explain it. You can't see air, thus it's hard to judge whether you're doing it right or just exhaling air through the nose.
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  • Re: Using The Nose....

     03-10-2010, 6:50 PM

    I wish I could use my nose, right now. Stoopid cold.
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  • Re: Using The Nose....

     03-10-2010, 9:01 PM

    I have been slowly working on pushing some smoke out the nose. For a total noob I found the take a short puff and close the yap and exhale, it is about the right amount getting pushed out my nose. If I get to much, I open said yap and blow out the rest. I Have not found a huge advantage on picking out flavor yet, but Im working on it.

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  • Re: Using The Nose....

     03-11-2010, 6:57 AM

    well, tried the blowing out through the nose thing again, still burns. I still get the best result pushing the smoke out the mouth and sniffing (lightly, carefully) in through the nose, and I know you're on the right track, after all, we learned in Anatomy & Physiology that something like 80% of what we experience as taste, is really about the smell. Still, just like the question "what's the best cigar", the best method for smoking will ultimately be an individual choice.
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  • Re: Using The Nose....

     03-11-2010, 6:53 PM

    I have been using my nose for a while now and it never really hurt but I really haven't picked up any flavors from doing it. Any tips?
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  • Re: Using The Nose....

     03-12-2010, 12:24 AM

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    I've tried this lol but I'm always congested, it seems. Seems like that would cause problems?
  • Re: Using The Nose....

     05-17-2010, 1:29 AM

    ljl
    Alex Williams:
    I have been using my nose for a while now and it never really hurt but I really haven't picked up any flavors from doing it. Any tips?

    I used to have the same problem. I think mostly I was concentrating on getting the smoke to come out my nose - not the flavors. Then I developed a "chewing" method for the smoke. Imagine taking a big bite out of a sandwich with a normal sized draw in your mouth. Chew (without swallowing) and let some of the smoke come out your mouth, the rest comes out the nose. I think this also triggers a Pavolovian type response where your taste receptors fire up.
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     05-19-2010, 12:37 PM

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    So I was smoking with a friend yesterday and I'm always telling him about interesting threads on here because he doesn't browse the forums himself, but we both starting smoke the same time (maybe 2 months ago) and I brought up this thread - we spent the whole cigar trying to figure out a good way to do this, and I think we got one!!!!

    When you draw off the cigar - hold the smoke in your mouth, then bring your tongue to the back of your mouth as if you're shoveling the smoke back. You have to try to keep your tongue against the sides of your mouth though. You essentially just create a tiny vacuum that pushes the smoke to the back of your mouth so you can breath it out your nose - nothing even close to inhaling in the mix :-D

    It works really really well for him and I - so I thought I'd share. Someone try it and let me know whatcha think!
  • Re: Using The Nose....

     05-19-2010, 3:12 PM

    GadwinDuil:
    So I was smoking with a friend yesterday and I'm always telling him about interesting threads on here because he doesn't browse the forums himself, but we both starting smoke the same time (maybe 2 months ago) and I brought up this thread - we spent the whole cigar trying to figure out a good way to do this, and I think we got one!!!!

    When you draw off the cigar - hold the smoke in your mouth, then bring your tongue to the back of your mouth as if you're shoveling the smoke back. You have to try to keep your tongue against the sides of your mouth though. You essentially just create a tiny vacuum that pushes the smoke to the back of your mouth so you can breath it out your nose - nothing even close to inhaling in the mix :-D

    It works really really well for him and I - so I thought I'd share. Someone try it and let me know whatcha think!
    That's pretty much what I do tho a few times I have inhaled a few times by accident.
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  • Re: Using The Nose....

     05-20-2010, 11:22 AM

    ljl:
    Alex Williams:
    I have been using my nose for a while now and it never really hurt but I really haven't picked up any flavors from doing it. Any tips?

    I used to have the same problem. I think mostly I was concentrating on getting the smoke to come out my nose - not the flavors. Then I developed a "chewing" method for the smoke. Imagine taking a big bite out of a sandwich with a normal sized draw in your mouth. Chew (without swallowing) and let some of the smoke come out your mouth, the rest comes out the nose. I think this also triggers a Pavolovian type response where your taste receptors fire up.
    The only thing I would add here would be to allow the smoke to come out the nose slowly. If you are just trying to blow it out your nose you most likely won't taste anything and the sensations in your sinuses won't feel very good either. I try to slowly exhale the smoke thru my nose and find that I can "taste" much more subtle flavors then when just using the mouth. Also, try to only let a little out at a time. After a while you will have built up to half or more of the smoke from the nose, and those flavors will be right there, you won't have to look for them.




  • Re: Using The Nose....

     05-20-2010, 5:35 PM

    laker1963:
    ljl:
    Alex Williams:
    I have been using my nose for a while now and it never really hurt but I really haven't picked up any flavors from doing it. Any tips?

    I used to have the same problem. I think mostly I was concentrating on getting the smoke to come out my nose - not the flavors. Then I developed a "chewing" method for the smoke. Imagine taking a big bite out of a sandwich with a normal sized draw in your mouth. Chew (without swallowing) and let some of the smoke come out your mouth, the rest comes out the nose. I think this also triggers a Pavolovian type response where your taste receptors fire up.
    The only thing I would add here would be to allow the smoke to come out the nose slowly. If you are just trying to blow it out your nose you most likely won't taste anything and the sensations in your sinuses won't feel very good either. I try to slowly exhale the smoke thru my nose and find that I can "taste" much more subtle flavors then when just using the mouth. Also, try to only let a little out at a time. After a while you will have built up to half or more of the smoke from the nose, and those flavors will be right there, you won't have to look for them.
    One might say your know a little too much about pushing stuff through your nose... just saying.. =p


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  • Re: Using The Nose....

     05-20-2010, 7:04 PM

    I guess I'm just never going to get this. All my attempts at having the smoke come OUT of my nose are less than satisfactory, guess I'll stick to using my nose to lift the flavors out of the smoke I exhale, which has worked very well for me. But, then, when I wake up and smell the coffee, I don't get a mouthful and blow it out my nose, I sniff it from the cup. Matter of personal taste, I suppose.
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